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  • #801025

    FastTimes
    Keymaster

    Lots of great discussions as of late with regards to the resurgence of hardtails. Fat bikes are also a hot topic this year, though I still can’t convince myself to buy one – as fun as they may be. Could this Pivot Cycles Les Fat deliver on the jack off all trades promise? Even as a fat bike alone it looks impressive, but the ability to potentially toss on a set of 29 or 27.5 inch wheels is alluring and certainly adds value and appeal. My number one hurdle to getting either a new hardtail or fat bike is what I still believe will, in my case anyway, be limited use. I will choose my trail bike 99% of the time. Maybe this would increase that percentage? Thoughts?

    Les Fat Features

      – Fits all fat/plus wheelsizes [26 X 3.8, 26 X 4.8, 27.5+ and 29+] via Swinger II dropout system, without geometry compromises
      – Full carbon frame featuring proprietary hollow core internal molding technology
      – Optimized layup structure with svelte top tube and stay shaping for long ride and epic adventure comfort while featuring the largest downtube in the category
      – Full length internal cable routing via Pivot’s exclusive Cable Port System
      – Optimized narrow Q-factor design
      – Complete bikes include co-designed lower Q factor E-Thirteen fat bike-specific crankset
      – 132mm wide press fit bottom bracket for light weight, durability and ease of maintenance
      – 2x and 1x and singlespeed compatible
      – 197mm rear spacing and optimized design clears 5″ tires with massive clearance for unpacked snow, mud and sand
      – Pivot designed carbon fork with 150mm spacing
      – RockShox Bluto compatible
      – Ships with both 18mm and Zero Stack headset cups for correct geometry at any wheelsize
      – Shimano sideswing front derailleur compatible via a low profile e-type mount
      – Geared and singlespeed compatible
      – Rear rack mounts
      – Internal dropper post compatible
      – 3 bottle cage mounts
      – Highly durable rubberized leather chainstay protection
      – Sizes S, M, L for riders between 5’6″ and 6’4″
      – Available as a complete bike or as a frame/fork/headset

    #801026

    secret agent
    Participant

    It’s a nice looking bike. It has very similar lines to the Beagrease judging from the video. I think most fat bikes would be compatible with a 29er wheel. The guy at the bike shop where I bought mine suggested getting a set of 29er wheels when I went to pick it up as he had just done a set for another guy with the same bike. I am willing to bet a 27.5 wheel would also work on a lot of fat bikes.
    I considered getting a set myself and building a fast fully rigid bike. The issue would be that I would be riding it in less rocky places like rail trail, Hydrocut or buff single track like Turkey Point, that would require much harder gearing than I have on the fat bike now. It is still something in the back of my mind as a possible project. I enjoyed the fat bike as it is so much last summer, I don’t feel the need for a change now, but one never knows.

    #801053

    jcitizen
    Participant

    The adjustable dropout is a great idea. The idea of swapping out wheels on my fat bike seems like a cool idea, but I fear the chainstay length & bb height would not make for the kind of ride I’m looking for once I’m off the snow running different wheels.

    This PIVOT LES is definitely one of the nicest looking fatties out there.

    #801054

    jcitizen
    Participant

    BTW, that bike park/trail system looks awesome, but the conditions are down right depressing for a fat bike video.

    #801060

    FastTimes
    Keymaster

    This Les Fat and the Salsa Beargrease are both good options in my opinion. High end Beargrease has a nicer spec’ but this Pivot is sexy and versatile.

    #801062

    Matty F
    Participant

    The Pivot is super nice. However, as Marc alluded to, the top-end Beargrease is the same price, but comes with an XX1 drivetrain, Thomson/WTB cockpit, and Whiskey carbon rims. Almost everything is a step up, and the carbon rims are a huge plus.

    #801080

    jcitizen
    Participant

    Rumour has it those Maxxis tires at low pressure are almost unrideable due to mega selfsteer tendencies.

    Beargrease may have a better spec, but if I was gonna drop any real coin on a fatty frame/bike I’d go with this hands down cause of the drop out versatility.

    #801109

    BlurredLines
    Participant

    If you’re vegan, do Crossfit, and ride a LES Fat, which should you talk about the most?
    Your best option is to emphasize the positive effect that being a vegan Crossfitter has had on your LES Fat “enduro” Strava sessions. Do this with every rider you encounter at the trailhead for maximum “Enduro” points, being sure to use the term “KOM” and and talk about how many “Cups” you have.

    I feel like this portion of their FAQ was written specifically for @Trailhead ‘s entertainment

    #801149

    Trailhead
    Participant

    If you’re vegan, do Crossfit, and ride a LES Fat, which should you talk about the most?
    Your best option is to emphasize the positive effect that being a vegan Crossfitter has had on your LES Fat “enduro” Strava sessions. Do this with every rider you encounter at the trailhead for maximum “Enduro” points, being sure to use the term “KOM” and and talk about how many “Cups” you have.

    I feel like this portion of their FAQ was written specifically for @Trailhead ‘s entertainment

    Haha! I’d like to kick somebody at pivot in the nutz for that drivel!

    #807251

    FastTimes
    Keymaster

    Looks like I will be pulling the trigger on one of these. It has the features I think I want such as ability to stuff in 5″ tires and is the most versatile bike out there with regards to to wheel sizes.

    Still not sure weather or not I even really like the idea of fat bikes or plus size wheels but if this bikes means I can get 20+ more days of riding in this winter then that’s all the plus I need.

    I’ll be looking to hook up with anyone riding this winter. I’ve done plenty of winter riding seasons but this will be my first on a fat bike.

    Do I need to try one? From what I have heard, everyone thinks they are a blast. But I have never bough a class of bike sight unseen without riding one before. Crazy?

    #807254

    jcitizen
    Participant

    Looks like I will be pulling the trigger on one of these. It has the features I think I want such as ability to stuff in 5″ tires and is the most versatile bike out there with regards to to wheel sizes.

    Still not sure weather or not I even really like the idea of fat bikes or plus size wheels but if this bikes means I can get 20+ more days of riding in this winter then that’s all the plus I need.

    I’ll be looking to hook up with anyone riding this winter. I’ve done plenty of winter riding seasons but this will be my first on a fat bike.

    Do I need to try one? From what I have heard, everyone thinks they are a blast. But I have never bough a class of bike sight unseen without riding one before. Crazy?

    That quiver is gettin’ stacked!

    Where do you plan on fatbiking? I found I just didn’t ride fun snow conditions enough to warrant a whole other bike, but. Are you gonna run it with carbon rims? Getting lots of weight off those wheels is gonna make the ride a lot more fun if you ask me.

    #807255

    fietser
    Participant

    Yup, you’re crazy! 😉

    But like you said, if it gets you out riding more that is all that matters #ridingfeelsgood

    Can’t wait to see this beauty in the flesh.

    #807256

    FastTimes
    Keymaster

    I plan to ride some good spots @jcitizen I have had some great winter seasons so I think this will just make it better.

    I dont think I will be able to afford carbon this winter but will contemplate it after a season. It come with the new DT wheels BR 2250 http://www.dtswiss.com/Wheels/MTB-Wheels/BR-2250-Classic

    Ive been told not to bother with tubeless as the grip of the tire tears it off the rim no matter the setup. Anyone have any experience with this? I think I will try a few DYI options and see how it goes.

    What about a suspension fork? I like the carbon fork they have and was going to upgrade later but its always cheaper as part of a complete bike.

    #807257

    jcitizen
    Participant

    I plan to ride some good spots @jcitizen I have had some great winter seasons so I think this will just make it better.

    I dont think I will be able to afford carbon this season but will contemplate it after a season. It come with the new DT wheels BR 2250 http://www.dtswiss.com/Wheels/MTB-Wheels/BR-2250-Classic

    Ive been told not to bother with tubeless as the tire grip of the tire tears it off the rim no matter the setup. Anyone have any experience with this?

    What about a suspension fork? I like the carbon fork they have and was going to upgrade later but its always cheaper as part of a complete bike.

    The biggest drag on my experience was pushing those big crazy-heavy wheels around. Guess I couldn’t accept the nature of those tires, maybe.

    It’s rare that you get perfectly packed snow, and everything outside of that suspension could be a nice thing to have. But, there is something really nice about the low-maintenance rigid forks, especially if you start riding on roads with salt or sand etc etc.

    #807258

    mcbain
    Participant

    I’ve gone the route of versatility by buying more bikes, not more wheelsets. @fasttimes you’re already there! The Les Fat is a very cool design, but seems to involve more tinkering than just swapping wheels. I don’t mind the wrenching, but have found that minimizing excuses not to ride in the winter is essential to getting out the door. My rigid Specialized Fat Boy Expert has worked out really well: dress warmly, tweak tire pressure, ride, wipe and lube chain, defrost body in shower. No iced up front derailleur, no suspension worries. Whether Mother Nature delivers a winter worthy of fat tires or not, this bike is my go-to once there’s salt on the road. Come ride the Don’s Fat Route this winter!

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