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    internet
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    Consider grabbing a pair of Ice Spikers (29″) for my hardtail anyone have any experience with these in the Don? Obviously this hot ass January weather is not ideal but still another 6 months of winter to go right…

    #814872

    FastTimes
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    Welcome to RFG @internet While I haven’t used those tires myself, they come highly recommended are the goto for most off-road, winter cyclist. I just ordered a set myself in fact. I have been running the Marathon Winter tires from Schwlabe for two seasons now and they are amazing.

    Keep in mind that you’ll need roughly 25-40km of chill riding on the road to break them in. I went for the higher stud count on both for more cornering bite. They also perform best tubeless and at lower PSI.

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    #814875

    EnduroRider
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    Definitely agree with what Mark said. I Have them mounted up to my HT and are a great asset when the weather is like this. But not much help when the show gets deep, not that we have seen a lot of snow stay around.

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    #814876

    Durham Rider
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    I had a set that I picked up after a nasty fall and they worked great. Especially on glare ice. You do have to ride like you are on ice though but they will go up icy hills that you couldn’t walk up. Like EnduroRider said though, absolutely no help in deep snow.

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    #814880

    ghettocruiser
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    I had a pair of the 26er 2.35 I used for five or six winters riding almost every day. Probably over 3000km, way longer than a regular pair of knobby tires.

    The tips on the centre-line studs got pretty dull after all those miles, and they pushed back into the tires a few mm, so their ability to actually climb and descend on ice was pretty suspect in the later years. But they still gripped well enough to keep me from crashing on ice, even ice that was a bit (but not too much) off-camber.

    But if you try to say… cross those frozen waterfalls on CAT and PA…. even with low-mileage studs, there’s a pretty good chance you’ll be denied.

    I ran mine tubeless on a dedicated set of Shimano wheels at almost-fatbike-low pressures, 12-18PSI with stans. It was horribly slow on pavement, but that pressure let them float beautifully over bumpy (footprinted) ice trails that I can’t imagine riding with any other setup… at least in the pre-fatbike era.

    I only had two studs fall out that whole time, and replaced them with cannibalized studs from an even older Nokian WXC.

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    #814884

    internet
    Participant

    Thanks for the info, looks like Ill be grabbing a pair.

    #814902

    jcitizen
    Participant

    Slightly off topic: can you screw studs into any tire? I have some Minion 3.8s I’m rockin’ and I’d like a little stud love. Trails aren’t managaeble without.

    #814903

    FastTimes
    Keymaster

    For sure you can, but I never really got the appeal of going that route myself. By the time you do the job and wreck the tires you’re studding, you’re really better off getting a proper set with good carbide studs. I suppose if you have a garbage tire laying around it’s an option. I’ve gone multiple seasons on road and MTB studded tires so I think its definitely worth having a set. Amortized over the years of use they are not costly at all. Good studded tires also have built in pockets for the studs. A tool and replacement studs are available so you can really make them last.

    If you want to do your own, you can add shallow screws from the outside in then cut the heads. Obviously having a screw pointed into your tires is the very thing you want to avoid the rest of your riding days so I’m not a fan of that route.

    From the inside out is the preferred way. You’ll need to sort out the right length screws and ensure you line them up to come out the centre of the knobs. You can drill it out first, from the knob in, with a smaller diameter bit to make things easier. Some gorilla tape the inside of the tire after, some don’t – I would.




    Again, I don’t think this is the best DIY out there. It’s a decent option with fat bike tires and proper aftermarket studs but not so much with the 2.0 variety.

    If you’re going to do it maybe check these out http://www.gripstuds.com/Bicycle.php

    #814915

    BlurredLines
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    Have to agree with Marc on this one. Burning a set of perfectly good tires on that project seems a tad silly.

    I’m in the same boat right now assuming you’re talking about the 27.5×3.8 Minion.

    1. Probably the smart option for this winter is being patient. Bontrager confirmed a 27.5 gnarwhal studded tire (eta is march I think) and I’m sure that others will follow suit eventually. Yeah this winter kinda blows…

    2. 27×3.0 Wrathchilds from 45NRTH this would be at the top of my list if it was a touch wider, but it suggests that studded 27.5 fat is a future possibility out of 45NRTH, maybe someone knows more than I do on that end?

    3. 29er wheels… I’m seriously considering trying this, but have my doubts that a 2.25 will fit well on a i45

    #814916

    jcitizen
    Participant

    Have to agree with Marc on this one. Burning a set of perfectly good tires on that project seems a tad silly.

    I’m in the same boat right now assuming you’re talking about the 27.5×3.8 Minion.

    1. Probably the smart option for this winter is being patient. Bontrager confirmed a 27.5 gnarwhal studded tire (eta is march I think) and I’m sure that others will follow suit eventually. Yeah this winter kinda blows…

    2. 27×3.0 Wrathchilds from 45NRTH this would be at the top of my list if it was a touch wider, but it suggests that studded 27.5 fat is a future possibility out of 45NRTH, maybe someone knows more than I do on that end?

    3. 29er wheels… I’m seriously considering trying this, but have my doubts that a 2.25 will fit well on a i45

    Thanks for the info, guys. Marc, I’m totally turned off the idea of DIY studding, haha.

    I think a 2.25 would be pretty horrible on an i45 as you’d probably have the tread inside of the sidewalls. Also, winter conditions are so lumpy that I personally think a 2.25 29er is gonna be very harsh unless it’s on a full squish. I’m not totally sold on 5.0 tires for don riding, but definitely appreciate more volume on TO crust. Even a soft 2.4 is still very harsh on lumps & crust and will never do well in snow unless it’s perfectly packed. This is why I’ve been reluctant to get ice spikers cause they’re just too small for The Don Valley Crunch.

    I’ve found the 3.8s have tonnes of volume and ride a lot more like a mountain bike than my experience on 5.0s. My ride to the trails is a few kms of slow pavement climbing and then back up pottery on the way home, so I appreciate saving a few hundred grams. This is my other bike, so not keen to invest in it too much, but in the future I could see a 3.0 Minion DHF/DHR combo being great in the don for 75% of our winter. If they came out with a studded version that’d be perfect.

    It’s amazing how different the weather is by the lake. The rest of the province is looking great right now.

    #814921

    a-hill
    Participant

    I got great use out of my ice spikers but after 2-3 seasons the studs on the center of the tire sank into the knobs and now they don’t hook up any more. But they were great while they lasted.

    I’m riding a fat bike now and Iooked into getting a set of Dillinger 4’s but they’re pretty expensive. I also looked at gripstuds but that adds up to almost as much if you buy enough to properly do 2 fat tires.

    So I did a little experiment to see if I could make DIY chains. I bought 24 feet of chain, about 30 feet of aircraft cable and some turnbuckles from the local hardware store. I enlisted the help of my son, and after about 3 hours of snipping, crimping, winding and swearing (me anyway) we managed to get them together.

    After a couple of test rides on the beltline I think it can safely be declared a success. It doesn’t hook up as well as proper studs but it definitely makes the ice rideable. And the price is right…


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    #815000

    Brook Smith
    Participant

    I have been using 29er 2.25 ice Spikers on my HT, and they are rad as hell. They grab the ice way better then you think they should, so you can rip tits anywhere on the don trails. I only have to get off in its really icy and off camber.

    Get rad on the ice!

    #815055

    internet
    Participant

    Put them on tubeless and rode the 40k on pavement this past weekend – loud tires haha – looking forward to everything icing over again

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