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  • #798892

    Marley
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    I currently use my phone as a gps device for my rides, and am thinking of taking the plunge and buying a Garmin – looking at the 200 and the 510. Its easy enough to compare the features on paper to determine if the extra cost of the 510 is worth it, but curious about people’s experience. Also, anyone know if they are basically the same in terms of ease of use, battery life, tracking ability, etc from a practical perspective?

    #798893

    ghettocruiser
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    The 200 records track points too far apart to get much usable data on a twisty mountain biking trail. There is no option to record every second, and it cant be paired with a wheel sensor. Thus, depending what phone you use, it might well give a worse data than what you have now.

    If the 510 is too big or pricey, see if you can find a closeout on a 500. A few of them were lemons, but the one I have (the warranty replacement mind you) has almost always given really good tracklogs, even in the woods in the summertime.

    #798936

    Marley
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    Thank you – this is exactly the sort of info I was looking for.

    The issue I have with my phone is more things like battery life, it crashing sometimes when I use too many other apps mid ride (ie take a picture), ease of use, etc. But if I am spending money, I would like more accurate data as well. Thanks again.

    #799961

    flow_rider
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    I have been using my hiking gps, the Garmin 62s on the bars but it really is a bit big and unwieldy. I’ve fiddled with a number of mounting options for it but it’s pretty annoying… I’m liking the lower profile of the Garmin Edge devices. My hiking GPS also doesn’t do Strava segments like the the way I’ve seen their 800-series does (here: http://www.scarletfire.co.uk/use-your-garmin-virtual-partner-to-get-strava-koms/).

    Anyone know what advantages the 810/800 has over the 510/500?

    #799965

    ghettocruiser
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    I can answer 800 vs 500… in addition to the obvious larger colour screen, it has mapping and navigation functions. Which is far more useful on the road than in the woods….But if you do get lost in the woods the 800 is more likely to get you out than the 500. The nicer screen also makes it a bit easier to see what’s going on in some of the more obscure functions, like virtual partner, while road riding (I’ve never been able to read much information from either unit when actually mountain biking on single track).

    The 800 reportedly has a larger antennae, although practically I’ve never seen any improvement in the tracks of one vs the other. The big screen does mean shorter battery life, although they both last for longer than most people ride.

    I have not yet used a 510 or 810. A guy I know with a 510 is always mad at it, but it might be another lemon like my first 500 was before I warrantied it.

    #799985

    Marley
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    Funny, the 510 I ordered actually arrived on Friday. First impression is that the technology seems a bit dated for the price, but it may simply be that I have been spoiled by flashy apple products. Can’t wait to take it out for a spin.

    #802763

    flow_rider
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    @marley it’s been a few months… how are you liking the 510 now that you’ve had a chance to use it? how’s the strava integration? battery life? any annoyances with the lack of mapping/nav features? (basically, are you happy with the 510 or do you think it’s worth splurging on an 810?)

    #802769

    Marley
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    Hey Mike! Aside from the thing being very obviously, totally broken (not a single KOM!) I am very happy with it – does its job very well. I do not miss strava crashing my phone when I try to check a text or take a picture, the increasingly frequent dead batteries, or just fumbling in my pack to check the time. The batteries seem to last a very, very long time. Uploading rides is an extra step as I connect it to my PC, but it is fast and an automatic upload to Strava. I think you can setup remote upload via bluetooth but I have not tried that yet. Can’t really comment on the gps accuracy because I don’t pay that much attention. No weird tracking or dropped signals yet, anyway. It did take some time to set up and get used to – I don’t find the interface very intuitive. Adjusting backlight, profile data fields, ant+ connection, etc all took a bit of online research. Even something as simple as changing screens I find odd, and you really need to press the screen pretty hard to have it respond. Maybe that is for the best.

    Can’t comment on the 810. But I recall thinking it seemed more than I need. Big and expensive! Maybe I would appreciate the superior maps feature if I rode more remote trails, but I do most of my riding in the Don, and I also always have my phone if needed. No regrets on the 510, anyway.

    #806486

    flow_rider
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    @marley

    Firmware 4.20 (heh) has dropped for the 510/810 which enables Strava Live Segments (see https://www.strava.com/premium/live/segments-on-garmin).

    Details/install instructions here:
    https://forums.garmin.com/showthread.php?319939-Firmware-Version-4-20-Now-Available!

    #806487

    Marley
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    Oh, god. This will not be healthy for me.

    #806488

    jcitizen
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    Do you guys have old phones or bad luck? I’ve got an almost 3 year old Samsung galaxy which handles strava just fine as long as I leave with more than 50-60% battery.

    I do hate getting my phone outta my bag, though.

    #806489

    Marley
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    I was using an iphone 5 with minimal apps running. The cold weather, especially, would kill it.

    #806490

    flow_rider
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    @jcitizen My Samsung Galaxy S5 was giving me a horrendous squiggly GPS tracklog, plus on really long rides the GPS tracking was really putting a dent in my battery life.

    I love the fact that my Garmin 810 syncs wirelessly with my phone after a ride. I just hit the pause button, save workout, and bam! it shows up in Strava a few minutes later. Plus I’m a bit of a data nerd and appreciate seeing fields like time elapsed, km, heart rate, speed, cadence (road bike), time to sunset, etc.

    #806492

    jcitizen
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    @jcitizen My Samsung Galaxy S5 was giving me a horrendous squiggly GPS tracklog, plus on really long rides the GPS tracking was really putting a dent in my battery life.

    I love the fact that my Garmin 810 syncs wirelessly with my phone after a ride. I just hit the pause button, save workout, and bam! it shows up in Strava a few minutes later. Plus I’m a bit of a data nerd and appreciate seeing fields like time elapsed, km, heart rate, speed, cadence (road bike), time to sunset, etc.

    The data nerd aspect does sound pretty fun, actually.

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