October 13, 2016 at 1:48 pm #813801
Its has been a long time since logging here and even longer since night riding. Looking to upgrade my old BLT water bottle light from 1999. What is a good bright light set. I ride very aggressive so the goal is max light. Hope some guys here can help point me in the right direction.October 13, 2016 at 3:49 pm #813808
Check out this thread:
Since then I have ditched my cheap dx.com light. It is brighter than a thousand suns, but the battery is big/awkward, life was really short, and I started getting paranoid about the possibility of it burning my house down.
I got a Bontrager Ion 700 from Cycle Solutions and I absolutely love it. Lasts a very long time (hours), small, USB charge, and I usually don’t even need the highest brightness setting.
1 user thanked author for this post.October 13, 2016 at 5:25 pm #813810
Marley knows nothing.
Proof is in pictures – Lumens really mean nothing.
Especially Chinese Lumens.
Colour, beam spread, flicker, battery size, battery safety – all things to consider.
Look at MTBR’s beam pattern pictures on their 2016 Bike Light Shootout – Beam Patterns
Make your decision from there.
The candlepower tech trailtorch TT3000 is really nice.
If you want to waste a few more hours – head over to candlepowerforums
Get a wide bar, and a spot helmet and call it a day.October 13, 2016 at 9:06 pm #813813
Bontrager Ion 700
I second the wireless options. I’ve got a 600lumen headlamp and 1250 barlamp and I can see pretty well. The headlamp is older and the battery is losing life, but over I’ll I’m happy with the set up. You can get really powerful headlamps that are small like this: http://www.exposurelights.com/cycle-lights/front-lights/exposure-diablo-mk8 (I kinda wanna order this now!)
With lights you really get what you pay for, but you don’t have to pay a lot to get something decent.October 13, 2016 at 11:19 pm #813814
I can’t remember if I have the niterider pro 1400 or 1800 race (https://www.niterider.com/mtb/), but they are awesome. I just mount it to my helmet and it’s all I need. It will last 3 hours on lowest setting, which is more than enough. I’ve had it for years and it’s still kicking strong.
I’m trying to remember the site I bought it from (the thread mentioned above has it somewhere), but I got it for 70% off. It’s possible you may find something at the bike show this weekend.October 14, 2016 at 8:23 am #813815
Absolutely a fan on the definition you gain with one on the helmet, and one on the bar.
Huge fan of the Gemini Duo. “1500 Lumen” with a few features I’m pretty sure I wouldn’t do without now.
First is the remote. Having control of your lights on your bar in a quick and easy location makes it a lot easier to adjust on the fly. The most important detail here is that you can control more than one light with the single remote.
Second is the three adjustable settings. Base is %60, 80%, 100%, but you can set it how you like it and really draw out battery life with a lower “low” mode. If you’ve got a pair set up on bar/helmet it’s nice to have that extra 10-20% more power on the headlamp to really highlight the trail.
Lastly the battery while yes bulkier than a self enclosed USB has a significant lifespan especially considering the output (almost 3 hours @100%).
Another consideration though arguably never discussed is a good tail light to complete the package and keep us all visible during the commute to, from, and between the trails. No specific advice here as basically anything will do, but something not to overlook.
*Pretty sure you can do all of this with the new Bontrager Ion800 RT or any combination of the Bontrager “RT” lightsOctober 14, 2016 at 10:40 am #813816
I’m with BlurredLines. I would look at both Gemini, and Glo Worm lights. I ended up buying the worms as they are waterproof and at the time I was living in a pretty wet climate where riding in the wet was at least half of my riding.October 14, 2016 at 10:54 am #813818
For the price of a true MTB night light you can buy 3 of these 2 for the handlebar and 1 for your helmet. Yes they are cheap chinese and likely no where close to 3600 Lumens but they are effective for night riding, have free shipping and no tax.October 14, 2016 at 11:24 am #813819
Thanks guys, one all info at this point is great. One that I have been looking at but do not know anyone that has used it is the Gemini Titan. This looks to cover all my needs but to not want to just drop the cash without hearing some first hand use. I should add my riding in the Durham Forest are in Ontario area for the most part, but may do some 24hr races so I need a product that will last me and be easy to use.October 14, 2016 at 12:25 pm #813820
The Gemini Titan is 4000/2400/400 lumens. I think you want something in between those 400 and 2400 levels… and 4000 will probably just piss off everyone you meet. If you are concerned about runtime maybe get a light with removable batteries.
I have a fenix BC30 (1200 lumens) and HL60 (400-950 lumens, depending).
Good quality external 18650 batteries+charger add $$$.
Cheap lithium batteries tend to explode at some point…October 14, 2016 at 12:55 pm #813821
+1 for the nite rider, I picked up the 770 enduro form Jenson pretty cheap and it has been awesome. It puts out a ton of light and the beam pattern is right on. I find I’m not even using full power most of the time.
I also have one of those riorand chinese lights and while its powerful and cheap, the beam on mine was a very tight spotlight, made it pretty lousy as a riding light.
Also it seems that magic shine canada has shut down and they are now recommending you buy any other brand of light but theirs.October 16, 2016 at 12:13 pm #813827
Serfas is at the absolute top of the light game right now. Their newest line, which is just hitting shops now, have some outstanding specs at amazing prices. Their most noteworthy offering is the new True 1500 USB, which is 1500 lumens with a USB chargeable integrated battery, 1.5 hour battery life on max power, and retails for only $160. If you pair that up with a True 450 or 600 ($70 and $90, respectively) you get a pretty killer pair for a killer price, and you don’t have to deal with any chords.October 17, 2016 at 10:07 am #813834
I run a Serfas 750 on my helmet and on my bars. They work great. They are absolutely waterproof. This summer I was using one of them to light up the dock at the cottage for a very late swim. Alcohol may have been involved and the light dropped into the lake. Survived and working great. Someone here posted up about some cheap Chinese lights. I ordered them from Amazon for less than $20.00. I tested one on my bars. The battery pack fits nicely on my stem, so that works fine. It is a little dimmer than my 750, but would work pretty well. The helmet mount looks like a jockstrap contraption. I didn’t even give it a try. I carry an extra battery for the Serfas. The hour and a half is about right at full power.October 17, 2016 at 4:12 pm #813841
I run a Serfas 750 on my helmet and on my bars. They work great. They are absolutely waterproof. This summer I was using one of them to light up the dock at the cottage for a very late swim. Alcohol may have been involved and the light dropped into the lake. Survived and working great. Someone here posted up about some cheap Chinese lights. I ordered them from Amazon for less than $20.00. I tested one on my bars. The battery pack fits nicely on my stem, so that works fine. It is a little dimmer than my 750, but would work pretty well. The helmet mount looks like a jockstrap contraption. I didn’t even give it a try. I carry an extra battery for the Serfas. The hour and a half is about right at full power.
The “jock strap” is simply a head mount, so the lights can be used for camping etc. Cut it off and zip tie the light mount to your helmet. Easy peasy . I don’t advocate these lights for any one racing or out far from home. But for the peeps who just want to get out for 1-2 hours after the kids go to bed on known trails close to home without breaking the bank they do the job. The “3600” riorand I posted has a fine beam, 3 settings.October 17, 2016 at 7:27 pm #813843
Given the recent Samsung phone explosions, I think I would remised to not also mention that there is a risk to using infirior quality electronics. Chargers are a potential hazard and should never be left unattended, something that is even more critical with the Chinese lights, as seen in this article.
I also don’t really want to roll the dice on lights failing while deep in the bush on a cold winter night, no thanks. At that point you’d pay anything for a light that works. It’s worth getting something reliable.
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