December 18, 2016 at 12:26 pm #814719
Totally agree about the difference with fresh vs. Packed. I’ve got both the 27.5 and the 26 wheel options on 80mm rims. I’d love to try out the Bud/Lou combo sometime. I’ve had good fortune running with the stock Barbegazi’s and only found myself in a tough spot once last winter in a about a foot of very fluffy fresh snow. There was just nothing to hook up on and nothing even remotely paddle shaped about those tires. I’ve been debating some Dillinger5’s as an aggressive deep snow tire, but I’m also trying to wait it out to see who else launches some 27.5 offerings because out on the trails it becomes clear that there are some very real advantages to the slightly larger wheels.
On the what’s rolling end, I’d have to say “most?” of Turkey Point should be about a foot wide or more of well packed glory. If I lived near there right now you could find me riding my bike.December 18, 2016 at 4:54 pm #814725
Pretty happy I had the Beists on again today in Durham. Was a mix of awesome semi-packed, groomed trails with face shots in above the knees deep pow. They really got a whack of snow this week. Lots of impassable sections and trails I simple could not ride on. You’d need a Surly Mooonlander with Snowshoe XXL tires to have a fighting chance. There was a slight crust waking it even harder to pass. I still tried though 🙂 Glad I wasn’t on the 4″tires, that’s for sure.
Reports from AF, Puslinch and Dundas are that it’s a pretty tough ride. Short loops if any. The Pines and Guelph Lakes are in decent shape. The Pines will groom again on Monday night. SCMBC is waiting on more snow to begin their grooming operations. As @blurredlines said, after the grooming this week and race yesterday, Turkey Point would be mint. Might have to check it out later this week.December 19, 2016 at 9:30 am #814732
@fasttimes – we’ve had a few heavy squalls pass through, and the Ux valley gets hit even harder. It should settle down this week with the temps hovering around 0 at mdday high.
@durham-rider – how do we go about helping out with the grooming? I have plans to go for a ‘shoe with a buddy on Thursday, I’d be happy to drag a weight behind my fat ass. 😉December 19, 2016 at 9:37 am #814733
Hey @whynot. We can help post the grooming days here. They seem to be pretty much every Tuesday night.
Next grooming evening is:
Tomorrow at 7 PM – 9 PM
“Come on out and help us groom the South East single track. We will be parking at the end of Houston Road. (just off of Lakeridge Road about a km South of lights at Goodwood Road) We will be tackling Ogre and Out and Logs Over Easy. All you need are your snowshoes and some sort of light. Every volunteer will get a ballot into the draw for the fat bike and helmet in the spring. Hope to see you there. Terry Sinclair”
Also, the tires are at several of the trail heads so I think it’s just a matter of tying one on and going for it. Snowshoeing alone helps a great deal as well. Specially for the trails that are snowed in.
1 user thanked author for this post.December 19, 2016 at 4:13 pm #814762
Like @fasttimes mentioned, the tires are left in the forest if anyone wants a good cardio workout on a non DMBA grooming night. You would need to supply the rope to pull them with and if you have some kind of a harness it would make the job a lot less painfull than having a rope around your waist. On posted grooming nights the harnesses and ropes are provided. We are finding it beneficial to have some kind of a pole for the person following the tires to keep them from shortcutting the corners. It helps to steer the tires around the corner.
Also if you do make use of the tires please put them back where you found them.
Also for any DMBA members that come out and help groom you could be the winner of a Norco Bigfoot.December 20, 2016 at 9:59 pm #814773
Durham update. 14 snowshoers opened up some more single track for the fatties. We went over Ogre & Out as well as Logs Over Easy again. They will be awesome on the fat bikes now. Nice and packed.
Maple Gravey and the Pines all the way to the end got two passes with the tires and snowshoes. It isn’t as packed as Ogre and Logs Over but with the milder temps over the next couple of days it should pack in nicely.
All in all we did 7km of grooming tonight. A great night with great people. Enjoy!
1 user thanked author for this post.December 21, 2016 at 1:56 pm #814778
Thanks for the hard work @durham-rider and other DMBA volunteers! I had planned to head there today but work got in the way. Must have been perfect after your grooming and recent thaw/freeze cycle.
I still got out and managed to blast out a 25km loop, which was awesome. Trails are firming up well. Even a few icy patches to keep you honest. The Beists took it all in stride. Fabulous ride. Should only get better over the next few days. May toss on the studs if these conditions keep up but want to see how far I can push the Beists on ice.December 21, 2016 at 2:41 pm #814779
There are plans in the works for grooming a portion of Puslinsh. In my years riding there (pre fatbike), I found it to be a great place for non-groomed winter riding but I suppose it can’t hurt. Pic of proposed loop attached.
The Hydrocut is also open with groomed winter riding:
” Groomed trails are Dagmar, Creepy Corner, Jessica, Bootleg, Adam’s Run, Jake’s Attack and Jake’s Breakaway.”
I haven’t been to either yet this season for a hands on report but finding out for yourself is part of the fun of winter riding and exploring.
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Marc, have you been by Puslinsh since the snow has fallen? Looking to take my non-fatbike out a bit this holiday.December 21, 2016 at 3:25 pm #814782
Marc, have you been by Puslinsh since the snow has fallen? Looking to take my non-fatbike out a bit this holiday.
I haven’t been this season no. But have ridden there a ton in the past. It’s really hit and miss so it depends on what your after and your mindset. Conditions are primo right now for a non fat bike, Traditionally, the AF has been the better place, given the traffic, but this year that hasn’t been the case, yet anyway.
Generally, you want to hit it after the snow has fallen and after a weekend of guys on fat bikes tapping it for best success. My experience riding there says is should be good if it stays cold and no more snow falls between now and when you go. Other, groomed, spots may be better but some don’t allow, or frown upon, less than 4″ tires. So i’d check that if you aren’t certain,December 21, 2016 at 3:32 pm #814783
places actually limit people by their tire width? Weird! I’d say whoever is willing to venture in is game, it’s just snow.
But thanks on the info. I’ll hit up the trails. Been to agreement a lot this year so something else is welcome to me.December 21, 2016 at 4:04 pm #814784
Skinny tires can rut out the trails. And yeah, it’s just snow, but if you’re doing the work grooming it, I get it.
But to be honest. I am only aware of Albion and the Gats stating this as an official rule. Reason being is that they are sharing their Nordic tracks with fat bikers. Same reason Hardwood pulled the plug on their fat bike program.
So like always, just use common sense. If you’re leaving a rut, whether on snow or dirt, maybe it’s not the best day or conditions to be on those trails. It’s actually worse in the winter. Ruts laid in soft snow can freeze and stay that way for the season.
Take that all and observe it as you will as a fellow trail user.
Happy trailsDecember 22, 2016 at 12:59 pm #814787
Of course, how much a bike sinks into a snowpack is a function of the size and pressure of the tires,as well as the weight on said tires. In fact, I think in theory, tire pressure = ground pressure, but the variable load-carrying of tire sidewalls throws that off.
But yeah, seeing on my Strava feed people dragging car tires through the woods in deep snow to make a fat-bike-ready trail, I’m not really gonna question the rules they might make after that kind of suffering. And not that I’ll be riding any of these destinations in the foreseeable future…
Edit: I see Albion also has a posted limit of 10PSI, haha. Okay, I now have no argument with the physics of their regulations.December 22, 2016 at 3:26 pm #814788
This thaw though…… Hope to find something decent to roll on tomorrow. Gonna be sloggy.December 22, 2016 at 8:12 pm #814789
@fasttimes, Durham should be good if not great. I was there for a 2.5 hour ski this morning and the groomed trails were pretty firm. What fat tire treads that I did come across were all of the non rutted kind. I did bump into one biker and he said for the most part the trails were epic. They will only get firmer with more traffic.
There was no thawing going on at all and with the -5° or so for a low tonight and temps maybe hitting 1° tomorrow all should be good. I am not liking the forecast for Monday though with 7° and light rain. Hopefully they are wrong on that one.
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