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  • #817871

    mikester
    Participant

    Kinda surprised by the trees on the flats – seems more like a dick move than a strategy?

    Training Loop – prime conditions – not gonna get any dryer

    Trump Jump – can’t imagine the city took it down – then who!

    Beaver Flats-discovered the construction at night with lights – was a bit of a WTF moment – hope they don’t f that up, its my new fav trail (that ironing board!!)

    #817872

    Renegade Hardware
    Participant

    What happened to the Trump Jump on party atmosphere? I discovered the murder scene where the jump used to be last night. Who would do this? Does the City patrol the trails and demolish the fun for our own good? So gutted…

    PA in particular has been vandalized and boobytrapped by an older gentleman with a white beard and husky or similar breed for about 10 years now. Some here will remember the dude sawing halfway through the beams on ladder bridges. I would be surprised if it was anyone but an angry old man given the location and the fact that the city doesn’t really venture in there for work.

    #817873

    mcbain
    Participant

    What happened to the Trump Jump on party atmosphere?

    Definitely not vandalism this time – City of Toronto workers dismantled it completely and hauled out about 75% of the wood (the rest fell further down the hill). The dog walker who spoke to them said they were responding to a complaint. And that’s exactly how our bylaw system works. SAD! etc Lead-in to the former jump is now closed off.

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    #817874

    Renegade Hardware
    Participant

    What happened to the Trump Jump on party atmosphere?

    Definitely not vandalism this time – City of Toronto workers dismantled it completely and hauled out about 75% of the wood (the rest fell further down the hill). The dog walker who spoke to them said they were responding to a complaint. And that’s exactly how our bylaw system works. SAD! etc Lead-in to the former jump is now closed off.

    boourns! That’s a first that I’ve seen. Must have been more than one complaint.

    #817875

    Matt Bingham
    Participant

    City of Toronto workers dismantled it

    This is why we can’t have nice things!!!

    #817876

    adama
    Participant

    surprised if it was anyone but an angry old man

    A dotard probably called in a drone strike.

    #817877

    stephen_reese
    Participant

    Sorry to hear about the Trump Jump (remember: anything bearing that guy’s name is cursed).

    Motown’s in perfect shape (and I’m not). Exactly one wet spot at the entrance to Phase 3, and it’s nicely rock-armored.

    Hit it now for fall conditions at summer temps!

    #817878

    fietser
    Participant

    But are people truly surprised?

    Not trying to dredge up the past here but dismantling rogue structures that can be construed as potentially dangerous, or built without consent, isn’t exactly out of character for the City. Not to mention the fact that the Trump Jump was splashed all over various forms of social media didn’t exactly make it difficult for the City to find it.

    My sincerest apologies to the people responsible for the build – it is obvious they went to great time and effort. Given the calibre of building in the Don – I don’t doubt it was well thought out and built.

    If these sort of features are truly what riders in the Don would like to see, I would encourage you to lobby the proper channels to adopt/move forward/get on with the Ridge Concept Plan (https://www1.toronto.ca/City%20Of%20Toronto/Parks%20Forestry%20&%20Recreation/02Parks%20and%20Trails/Park%20Projects%20and%20Improvements/Files/pdf/2016-08-31_RidgeTrail_Final_A_reduced.pdf ) Take a look if you haven’t already. Simply getting on a forum page and moaning about it isn’t going to fix things. Take the time to try and effect the changes you wish to see. Hold those to account who have put forth the recommendations and drawn up the Concept Plans. Get on the phone and talk to your local councillor. Yes it takes time, LOTS of time, but unfourtunately that is how it all works.

    I know many here will not agree with me, that’s okay. But we need to remember that these trails are built – doesn’t matter by who – on public land and open to all users. We live in a city with a population in the millions. Sharing (and playing by the rules) is just part of the deal.

    And yes, I realize this isn’t exactly a ‘Conditions Report’ but hopefully it will spur some on to improve conditions by seeking out the channels necessary.

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    #817886

    Shortcuttomoncton
    Participant

    Keep in mind the Bruce County lawsuit decision from last year – the municipality was held liable for the experienced mountain biker’s injuries at least partly because they should have known it was a dangerous obstacle – various ambulances had previously been called to the area – and there were no signs, warnings, or other information to say what level of skill was required prior to tackling the obstacle.

    I tend to think it’s something that trail builders either don’t understand or don’t want to understand: if you build a particularly dangerous or high-skill obstacle and someone gets hurt and manages to find and sue you (or their insurance company does, which is the real danger), you’re probably liable unless you’ve taken steps to ensure that the biker has been adequately informed prior to hitting the feature. And from the City’s perspective, if they’ve had numerous warning phone calls about Trump Jump – they’re probably trying to avoid any liability as well since it’s likely on their land and they’ve been warned it’s a danger.

    It’s all fun and games until somebody breaks their neck and can’t support their family. It can happen to any of us. So spending some Trump Change to make challenging features a bit more professional and clearly identified would likely go a long way.

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    #817887

    davetober
    Participant

    Thanks for the info folks. It’s a real shame because the builders had done such a professional job. Shortcuttomoncton – you must not have had the opportunity to see it, because besides being well built, the Trump Jump had excellent signage well in advance of the feature (“Gap Jump Ahead”, double black diamond, etc.). I think the builders did their due diligence as far as the actual feature and warning signs, at least in comparison to a ski hill feature park. The main difference being the landowner is party to the skill park. Which brings me to thank fietser for sharing the bigger picture perspective of the Ridge Concept Plan. Excellent point fietser, maybe moving forward with the City as a partner we can see expert level features like the late Trump Jump last. It seems to work at Hydrocut, which has some features that non-shredders would poo-poo at.

    Dear builders of the Trump Jump – in case your reading this, THANK YOU for your efforts in Making the Don Great Again.

    Alright and to bring this back to trail conditions – party atmosphere through roller flowster is dry and dusty folks, we don’t have the traction we did in August! Also beware of the scaffolding hiding like a troll under the bridge at BOT…

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    #817888

    adama
    Participant

    There is a shitload of broken bottles again on Bunny Run as it crosses under the bridge. I didn’t stay and clean it up because there was talking & laughter coming from up the slope. I didn’t want to risk being their new target.

    #817889

    Neville Park
    Participant

    the tree cutting made it to smiths / roller flowster too … one in particular that kept people in check is gone …

    to me it would appear in the efforts to maintain flow and go faster … a new person a little too “stoked” on collecting KOM’s? … either way, if you are reading this … please stop 🙂

    all in all a great last couple days to be out.

    Cat/PA/Rim Bridges – all in failing shape, be mindful

    #817890

    mcbain
    Participant

    Great ride last night in the full West Don. Darkness falls early and quickly so get a full charge on your lights before you head out. Yeah, I didn’t. To sum up:

    Catalyst – failing bridges
    Rim Job – all hail the whipper snipper man – thanks D!
    PA – bridges on Tremco climb failing
    BOT – scaffolding narrows trail to sub 750 mm after the big wall ride.
    Roller Flowster – giant puffballs!

    Bunny/Boo – re: broken glass on the trail. The woman who used to live riverside at the north end of Boo now resides under the Overlea bridge – look up and you’ll see the blue tarp. I’m guessing she may be responsible since the kids walking across the bridge usually drop cans and plastic. Across the river there’s an even more impressive shelter up under the bridge above Catalyst – look for the pull-down ladder!

    Beaver Flats – no one working on the sewer yet but they’re coming. Found a huge patch of mint growing riverside at the northernmost washout. First in the Don that I’ve found.

    DJ’s are now completely free of trash (thanks to Paul of course!).

    #817901

    jcitizen
    Participant

    Rode Midtown up, Quads back yesterday (sunday). Motown was in really good shape. Few leaves and a lot that over growth is gone. At the end there was great fish watching to be had. Quads on the other hand is garbage if you ask me. Haven’t been in a while and don’t think I’ll be back till I hear it’s been given some love or I suddenly have more time in my life to attempt something in there. It’s a decent amount of trail, but it’s in serious disrepair if you ask me – maybe that’s how people like it? At this point Motown in and out seems a lot more appealing.

    Hopefully an eastern angel will appear and start focusing its efforts there. Luckily the west has been getting lots of love over the last few years, cause Quads is an example of what happens when trails on hills are ignored.

    Thanks to all the builders/maintainers! We’d be screwed without (the very few) of you.

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    #817909

    Mr.Smith
    Blocked

    That’s a shame. I won’t open excavator even if it’s done from this perspective. I went in and fixed the corner a bit so you can berm easier.

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