Tagged: The Don
- April 5, 2013 at 5:40 pm #566854
i can’t believe i missed this…water tower=bad idea
your going to waste time energy and materials on something that can easily be sabotaged, can be unsafe, and you’re going to use a pump to fill it up ? why not just use the pump to pull water directly out of the river or pond ? shit just get a car battery a solar charger, a salvaged washing machine pump and some hose and bobs yer uncle.April 5, 2013 at 5:55 pm #566853
I realized his post was from last year, but last year is when I heard the idea about using wood for a water tower. The danger of 2500lbs covering a raised 4’x4′ area is immense. I think a pump like you mentioned would work just fine.April 5, 2013 at 8:04 pm #566852
I was down there last week with an engineer friend developing a plan for water.
Greg, the problem with direct pumping is keeping the system primed. It’s about a 10-12 foot “head” from the river so, all but the finest (read expensive) of pumps would not work. Then there’s the issue of vandalism (boys will be boys).
My idea is to go up behind the po pond where the ground is highest and bury the tank (to protect it). then rig a removable pump system.April 5, 2013 at 8:19 pm #566851
Sadly, I think vandalism is almost surely guaranteed. Sucks but pretty much a reality.April 6, 2013 at 2:33 am #566850
Young men learn how the world works by smashing it into little pieces.
The City has splash pads all over town that are vandal-proof, surely the Donrats can figure this out!April 8, 2013 at 12:14 pm #566849
Would be interesting to see if it can even hold water or if it’s developed any cracking over the last few years.
Problem with burying the tank is if it does develop any issues it’s a lot harder to fix up. Perhaps building a little ‘stone hut’ around it would suffice, and then just use the pump/battery as mentioned.April 8, 2013 at 2:03 pm #566848
Considering how close the Don jumps are to a water supply this all seems like a heck of a lot of wasted effort.
Get a few hand pump spray cans. Use a rope and bucket to fill them from the river. I dicked around with all sorts of ways to get water to my local jumps and settled on one of these and buckets of water in my atv trailer (which you don’t need seeing as the jumps are but a few hundred feet from infinite water supply).
Sure, maybe a bit slower, but the advantage of these sprayers is that they lay down less water at a time, allowing it to soak in instead of run off. I find they require far less water than a watering bucket or high volume spray hose.
Food for thoughtApril 8, 2013 at 3:12 pm #566847
Paul’s already got one of those. It’s a waste of time, really. The Don jump’s are formed on what’s essentialy sand and clay, and in the summer months the degree of dust that gets kicked up isn’t a small amount and needs more than 5 liters of water to penetrate enough for keep dust down, let alone shaping. Those sprayers are fine for some dirt, but definately not the Don unless you’ve got a shit load of time and paitence. I think the original idea of filling up a tank is great, but clearly there’s issues with the excecution of the concept.April 8, 2013 at 8:09 pm #566846
true. And there are far more jumps down there than when I used to frequent the area.
An easily primed handpump would be a great part of the solution, and possible negate the need for storage.April 9, 2013 at 12:07 pm #566845
A few could be usefull and would allow at the very least some dust relief. But like the shovel I brought down and suddenly became someone elses (Orange handle….), I’d fear the same thing. Would need to take it back out each time.April 9, 2013 at 4:43 pm #566844
Wow! I didn’t really think there would be such a debate over a possible water tower…..yes I am more than aware at the weight of water and the possibility of sabotage, thats why it hasn’t been built yet. When I have the plans all drawn up I will be talking to my structual engineer friend to make sure that it will be as solid as possible.
In terms of dust control with those sprayers….ever try and wet down a transition that is 5’wide at the lip to 10′ at the base by about 12′ in length with a 5L jug of water!? USELESS!!
PaulApril 9, 2013 at 5:15 pm #566841
As RH put it, I think the type of soil plays a part. Works fine on my backyard jumps, but it isn’t clay moon dust like the Don.April 9, 2013 at 6:29 pm #566842
There’s no debate. We’re all in agreement. hahaha.
Just make it out of structural 50w steel, welded, and be done with it. If anyone has a pickup I have some metal and I TIG weld….
But even then…..
The main concern, speaking to a few other mechanical and structural engineers here, is the foundation it would sit on….. isn’t as simple as designing and making a structure. Doable, but get the right people involved.April 9, 2013 at 7:00 pm #566843
Very inspiring photos 😆
I call it a tower but really it only has to be about 4′-5′ off the ground so it’s just over the highest point of the jumps
PaulApril 9, 2013 at 7:26 pm #566840
I thought you’d have a laugh.
Yup. It’s more the foundation that will cause uneven load as it errodes over time, especially with the flooding. Again, totally doable, but need to plan it out. Would make riding down there a lot nicer if the jumps weren’t supporting dust storms in the summer.
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