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elTwitcho
RFG Rookie
Joined: Sun Aug 22, 2010 2:49 pm Posts: 53
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Hey all, with spring on the horizon I'm getting back into spending my disposable income on bike stuff that I don't really need and I'm thinking tires might be the next thing on the list. Last season I ran the stock Nevegals that came with my bike and I thought they were ok, but they're also the only tires I've used since getting into mountain biking so my opinion isn't good for much beyond "they hold air and roll (kind of)".
So what are you guys finding works well for our conditions in the Don?
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| Tue Mar 06, 2012 11:21 am |
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Cracker
Forum Lifer
Joined: Thu Jan 09, 2003 5:02 pm Posts: 1275 Location: Toronto
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I have nevegal's for wet conditions and furious freds for dry conditions, the nevi's come out in the spring and late fall. I run the ff most of the summer.
So, I'd recommend a set of light weight low profile tires, ff might not be right for you but a lighter tire than your nevegal's with a smaller lug will be a nice performance improvement.
_________________Graham Seaman Director-at-Large, Sunnyside Skills Park Toronto Off Road Bike Association (TORBA) http://torontooffroad.blogspot.ca/
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| Tue Mar 06, 2012 2:16 pm |
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TomkDH
RFG Rookie
Joined: Tue Nov 18, 2008 12:26 am Posts: 59 Location: Ride!
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In the summer I would classify the majority of the don trails to be very hardpack. That being said you want a tire that's not going to penetrate the dirt to provide traction but rather aim to stick to the surface of the dirt. I suggest a tire that has plenty of flatter knobs, which are spaced very closely together. The more contact points with the dirt the better and smaller flatter knobs will be more predictable and less squirmy over hardpack then taller knobs.
Tire suggestions (In personal preferance order):
Maxxis IKON- My tire of choice, many small tightly spaced knobs, grippy rubber compound, fast rolling, wide profile
Maxxis Aspen- Smooth middle rolling surface, grippy rubber compound, small but raised side knob for cornering,
Continental X-King- Very well rounded, small flatter knobs but slightly more spread apart for mud clearance.
Continental race king- Fast rolling, not very much side knob for cornering though
Kenda Small Block 8- Many small knobs, fast rolling,
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| Tue Mar 06, 2012 3:04 pm |
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sumskillz
Sport Class
Joined: Fri May 13, 2011 2:45 pm Posts: 134
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On my single speed, when conditions are dusty, I swear by my Ritchey Speed Max betas. Looking at them, you'd think they'd be useless, but they work magically well. I've been riding them for 4-5 years now, they're good for a season or two. They don't do wet off-cambers, roots, etc. AT ALL. Thye stick to woodwork well. They can be hard to find.
Maxxis Crossmarks, seem to have random break away points, they slip without warning. I lasted two weeks on them, they are fine on my DJ bike.
I have tried about every purpose designed mud tire, at various psi's, the last two seasons (Muddy Mary, Swampthing, Mud Kings, Intense Spike's, etc.). Nothing works well when Don trails are newly wet. Save your money. When I was 10 years old, we made ice tires for our bikes by inserting 100's of 1/2 inch wood screws into each nob from the casing inside out. Obviously the tubes popped after a week of use, but a tire like that might work on slimy Don mud....
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| Tue Mar 06, 2012 5:47 pm |
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encorp
Forum Lifer
Joined: Thu Jan 28, 2010 2:04 am Posts: 1159 Location: Toronto
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I'll be riding specialized ground control rear/captain front at the start of the spring. I like them because they have great grip, and clear really well - and they have a better profile than most tires with knobs this size so they roll super fast. http://www.specialized.com/us/en/bc/SBC ... spid=64083
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| Tue Mar 06, 2012 6:27 pm |
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lost kiwi
Sport Class
Joined: Sat Aug 07, 2010 9:11 pm Posts: 116 Location: DT Toronto
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Rocket ron's for spring and fall, furious fred's once the ground is hard, and when it rains stick to the road.
_________________ Pain is your body telling you to give up, You don't have to listen.
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| Tue Mar 06, 2012 7:14 pm |
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ghettocruiser
Forum Lifer
Joined: Tue Feb 22, 2005 11:22 am Posts: 1196 Location: Willowdale
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RaceKing SS set up tubeless through 2010 and 2011.
I'll be using them again in 2012.
Would I recommend them to others?
Probably not.
_________________The above statements have not been evaluated by the Food and Drug Administration.Rigs.Raccoons.
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| Tue Mar 06, 2012 8:32 pm |
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micah356
Sport Class
Joined: Fri Mar 25, 2011 12:05 am Posts: 154
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Kenda Nevegal 29x2.2, Maxxis Ardent 26x2.25
Both came with the bikes. The Nevegals seem to have endless grip, but get destroyed pretty quickly by the 10k of road on the way to the Don. The Ardents seem pretty good, but I haven't had much time on them. Definitely not as horribly slow as the Nevegals though.
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| Wed Mar 07, 2012 1:07 pm |
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elTwitcho
RFG Rookie
Joined: Sun Aug 22, 2010 2:49 pm Posts: 53
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I dunno, I was thinking about how the Nevegals did last season and I had a fair bit of washouts on those really dry days when the Don more or less turns to concrete. Now I'm not suggesting for even half a second that my lack of skill wasn't the primary culprit in all of these crashes, but at the same time now that I think about it the nevegals don't really lose grip or slide in a controlled manner at all. Something a bit more predictable would be nice I think.
I'm lookin around now at my options and maybe leaning towards the SB8s because of their availability and because I'm a hack who would tear a thinner tire like a FF to pieces over rocks and such. From what I gather just about anything is going to roll better than Nevegals at least
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| Wed Mar 07, 2012 3:41 pm |
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alen_z
Elite
Joined: Wed Jan 06, 2010 2:40 pm Posts: 484 Location: Toronto
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I'm going to second Conti X-Kings for when it's nice and dry.
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| Wed Mar 07, 2012 4:32 pm |
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ghettocruiser
Forum Lifer
Joined: Tue Feb 22, 2005 11:22 am Posts: 1196 Location: Willowdale
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'Twas weird showing up for a group ride with 450g tubeless rubber ...and seemingly having the heaviest tires in the group.
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| Wed Mar 07, 2012 5:15 pm |
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encorp
Forum Lifer
Joined: Thu Jan 28, 2010 2:04 am Posts: 1159 Location: Toronto
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Nevegals roll like squares.
_________________ But I rather like my reflectors........
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| Wed Mar 07, 2012 5:58 pm |
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Trail_head
Forum Lifer
Joined: Wed Jan 03, 2007 8:33 am Posts: 3017
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encorp wrote: Nevegals roll like squares. 
_________________Timothy Charles Director of Dirt, Founder Toronto Off Road Bicycling Association (Torba) http://torontooffroad.blogspot.ca/
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| Wed Mar 07, 2012 8:25 pm |
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elTwitcho
RFG Rookie
Joined: Sun Aug 22, 2010 2:49 pm Posts: 53
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Thanks for the advice guys. I have a bit of an aversion to the super light xc tires just because I'd gladly trade a bit of speed for durability and flat resistance and I try not to pay much more than 100 bucks for a set of tires that I don't know if I'll like. So I *did* take the advice for more small knobs than big widely spaced knobs and ended up with a set of 2.35 SB8s, which if anything should provide a measure of grip by size of contact patch alone. We'll see what happens when I get a chance to try these out... in June when the trails are dry enough.
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| Thu Mar 08, 2012 10:26 am |
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Jeremy Lavigne
Grom
Joined: Mon Jan 23, 2012 7:26 am Posts: 39
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I bought a brand new set of XC Nevegals last year and cut the center lugs as low as possible with a set of side cutters.I use them as hardpack dirt tires for DJs.My goal was to be able to use these tires on my hardtail for the DS race at Blue last year but I ended up using my DH rig like everyone else.
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| Thu Mar 08, 2012 8:34 pm |
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